New Subclade Announcement: E-FT33868
We are very excited to announce the recognition of new subclade by YFull! The subclade is called E-FT33868, and it is downstream E-Y17357.
This subclade has been on FTDNA for sometime as E-A20849. However, because YFull did not accept A20849 or its phyloequivalent SNPs, the subclade was never added to YFull's haplotree. After multiple E-A20849 members upgraded to the Big Y-700, we discovered that there was another phyloequivalent SNP to the subclade: FT33868. This SNP was accepted by YFull and thus it is a single SNP subclade, defined only by FT33868.
With a total of 5 kits, YFull's age estimate for the TMRCA of this subclade is approximately 425 years ago. This is a well-dated subclade and is only slightly younger than its parent E-Y17357. The five kits at E-Y17357~ on YFull are likely in E-FT33868 as well but do not have the Big Y-700 and thus do not have positive reads for the SNP.
This subclade is primarily associated with group C02 and C11 in the Y-DNA results page here. If your kit is in this group, and you would like to confirm that you are positive for the SNPs defining this subclade, please send an admin an email.
E-Y17357, including its largest and oldest subclade E-FT33868, has long been an enigma for us E-Y14891 project admins. E-Y17357 makes up approximately 17% of the total population of the project, yet it has a TMRCA of only 450 years ago or around 1550 CE. That makes it one of the youngest subclades of the project, and the fact that most E-Y17357 members have ancestries from Lithuania, Belarus, and Ukraine drives us to believe this subclade has its origins in Eastern Europe, but isn't directly associated with the big migrations from Germany and Central Europe during the 14th-15th centuries after the Black Death.
Our next steps for research of this subclade are:
1) Confirm the other E-Y17357~ members are in fact FT33868+.
2) Determine the exact relationship between E-FT33868 and E-A20582 within E-Y17357. As in, how many members fall into each.
3) Attempt to find an E-Y17357* individual, negative for all known downstream SNPs.
4) Establish known downstream subclade E-FT34550 on YFull.
Our next steps for research of this subclade are:
1) Confirm the other E-Y17357~ members are in fact FT33868+.
2) Determine the exact relationship between E-FT33868 and E-A20582 within E-Y17357. As in, how many members fall into each.
3) Attempt to find an E-Y17357* individual, negative for all known downstream SNPs.
4) Establish known downstream subclade E-FT34550 on YFull.
You can see the new subclade here. If you have any questions about this subclade, please post a comment or send us an email. Many thanks!
- Leo
Thank you Leo , Igor and all the team for your hard work. Very exciting news. if so few men fit into this group is this perhaps the reason why I cannot find the ancestors of my grandfather? PH
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